Wackos and gun shows? My kind of people. Word is going round that most of the dead were killed by police who opened fire in a Kent State fashion.

No offense Patrick, was talking of Branch Dividians as wackos ( as well as crazy bikers) and gun show cultists of Gunstock. It's like bikers and Sturgis...!!! I love bikes but take Evel Knievel's view that bike gangs tarnish the image of good motorcyclists. I've had 11 bikes in life and rode many more, but refused to join any biker gang. To me (a crotch rocket fan), slow moving chrome couches with ape hangers, sissy bars, stepped seats, and peanut tanks mixed with high decible pipes is a turn off. Harleys are still made poorly when compared to Japanese and Euro tech, efficiency, styling, durability, etc... and like Knievel the old Harley rebels also rode Hondas, BMW boxer twins, Norton's, BSA, and Triumphs!!! The Superbikes of 1100cc by Kawasaki and Suzuki killed them on the streets long before the crotch rockets and V-65 Magna killed them in mid-80s!!! Harleys are overpriced and technically backward machines.